Wednesday, 2 January 2013

REPOSTED: HENRY VII and all that THE RICHMOND RUBBISH, ALL POST TUDOR TAFFS TO THE PRESENT DAY FOOLED BY CAMBRO BRIT LIES BECAUSE UNLIKE THE IRISH THE WELSH 'CAMBRIANS' HAD NOT THE SAME PATRIOTIC GUTS UNTILL 'THE THREE' AND THE 'SIXTIES FREEDOM FIGHTERS' - REMEMBER THEY BUT FORGET THE TUDOR TAFF TRASH!


See below, all of this post but not least this comment to fb in reply to Sian Ifan's criticism of this 'Brit Tudor Taff',  the fact that he says Russell can vouch for him is not worth a candle as far as I am concerned. What concerns me is not so much the Tudor Propaganda he is regurgitating of David Powell et al. But to call Sian  a ''TWAT'', this Nathan is my Partner, fellow Welsh Remembrancer and proven Patriot Activist with 'Pen and Pichfork' is another matter. Of course when this 'Idjeet' uses such language then he has lost the arguement, so i shall refrain from calling him a 'PRICK' as it might be said I have lost the arguement but do I care in this case? No! so yes he is a Prick and a bloody BIG BRIT PRICK at that and no doubt an ideal sort to make the ranks of WECTU as he is doing their work anyway. What gets me is the fact that Adam and Russell cannot really stand up to him and tell him to fick off you 'BRIT BASTARD'. On the matter of him insulting Sian I shall not forgive or forget but will deal with it personally to his face, after his trip to Cyprus as I am too busy to deal with him right now and I want him to have his holiday in Cyprus and consider seriously apolagising to Sian - a far greater Welsh Patriot than he will ever be!

Nathen David Robert Amin ''Calling me a Welsh Brit. Funny that. I'm sure people such as Russell Morris can comment as to my political leanings, but I have nothing to proove to horribly rude people such as yourself. Those who have wanted to sign it have signed it, those who don't want to sign it haven't. No big deal. Each to their own. Yet your clearly an aggressive twat who needs to wind her neck in. Your much better than me. I bow down to you. You are the truest Welsh nationalist on this site. Da Iawn, kill the english and all that. As for the 9th of June I am ofcourse aware of that yet I'm in Cyprus for a Wedding. I suppose your such a patriot you'd cancel the wedding right? Oh and Lol at being called a Welsh Brit again. Classic. Where's my union jack gone I wonder? *shakes my head*''

Gethin Comment: I have actuall cancelled a 'Political Holiday' in Belleville attending the Paris Commune 1871 Commemoration to with Sian finnance the Mynydd y Betws 'Occupation' and much more.

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Russell a question is this Nathan a mate? well that's your choice of scum but surely it's not what you would call a supporter of your Plaid 'Balchder Cymru' is it? or worse a 'member of your BC?.

Now read on:

HISTORIANS of the Tudors - The Tudors Wiki
8 Jun 2011 ... Tudor Historians Who are t he Historians who write about the Tudors? What are
their credentials ? What is...www.thetudorswiki.com/page/HISTORIANS of the Tudors - 118k - Similar pages

I DO NOT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TURNING YOU INTO CAMBRO - BRITS BUT IN INTEREST OF FAIRNESS READ BELOW BUT IT IS STILL FOR TRUE WELSH NATIONALISTS A MATTER OF CHOICE BETWEEN GLYNDWR OR THE 'TUDOR TAFF' ON THE MAKE - GIVE ME GLYNDWR EVERY TIME AND STUFF THE TUDORS OR IS THAT THE RICHMONDS?

The Welsh opinion turned against the Tudors when Henry VIII incorporated
Wales ... History has been so badly 'smudged' by various historians over the
ensuing ...www.tudor.vc/tudor/harritudur.html - 43k - Similar pages

SUGGEST YOU ALL READ ITEM IN THE MAY 2012 ISSUE OF BBC HISTORY MAGAZINE FAST, THE FEATURE TITLED - 'THE TUDORS TAINTED NAME' BY CSL DAVIES WHICH SPELLS OUT THE TRUTHFUL FACT THAT THE ''TUDORS'' DID NOT WANT TO 'OVER EGG' ON THAT NAME. AS FOR ALL THAT 'WELSH LOVING SENTIMENTALITY' THE TUDORS HAD FOR WALES I FANCY MUCH OF THAT WAS DUE TO  PROPAGANISTS AS DAVID POWELL A RIGHT ON TUDOR LICKSPITTAL BENEFITING GREATLY FROM BEING A TUDOR CRONY:

David Powel (1549x52 – 1598) was a Welsh Church of England clergyman and
historian who published the first printed history of Wales in 1584.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Powel - 31k - Similar pages

Now read below and note what Powel writes in interest of the New Tudor Order can you work out why, if Nationalists you should be able to work it out, if not back to Ysgol Ysbryd Cofiwn. 

CAMBRIAN NATION - NO! CENEDL CYMRY RYDD - YES ...


cofcenedl.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html


30 Dec 2007 – DAVID POWEL Welsh Tudor Historian - Father of Cambrianism? . Powels claim to fame is being seen as a founding father of Welsh ...

This Cambro - Brit stuff from there has got 'Legs' and by time of the Scottish Two Jacobite Revolts in the 18th Century the Cambro - Brits are well up forproving what 'Taffy Toadies' they are:

THE WELSH PATRIOT.: THREE FEATHERS etc - Shooting Ourselves In The...

3 Apr 2009... none other than Sir Owen M. Edwards who said in conclusion to his ... ''The motto of Wales is to be that of its prince – 'Ich Dien'….''. ...welshpatriot.blogspot.com/.../three-feathers-etc-shooting-ourselves.html -

15 Jul 2010 ... WELSH JACOBITES: Wrecsam Eisteddfod 2011 in mind. How's About Going JACCOBITE! Lets Bring Out A Forgotten Episode In Welsh History ...
hwbhanes.blogspot.com/2010/07/welsh-jacobites-wrecsam-eisteddfod-2011.html - 179k -Similar pages

Read On some more Cambro Brit Shite, Nathan would probably agree with by is twisted Taffy Reading as he does some to be reading from their 'Hymn Sheet'.

ANGHOFIO: 1282 THE GREAT BETRAYAL - THE GREAT TRAITOR ...


anghofio.blogspot.com/2011/.../1282-great-betrayal-great-traitor.htm...


The Rewards of Treachery and None So Great Us This. ... "…and then Llywelyn was betrayed in the belfry at Bangor by his own men".

It Strikes me that Nathan would have been a loyal 'Little Engerlander' in 1797 and with the Old Women in their 'Welsh Hats' waving Brit Broomsticks and not welcoming of the French as some, but not enough unfortunatly...... 


15 Feb 2007 ... to the “Welsh Insolence” that upset Oliver Cromwell, to the Welsh Jacobite David
Morgan and later I will look into the Lewis Lewis, the greatest ...

welshpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/02/22-february-1797-our-welsh-republican.html - 108k -Similar pages

........and never will be if Balchder Patriots as Adam and Russell do not stand their ground much stronger not least in face of Nathan's blatant bullshitting of they. Russell below your are just trying to justify a big mistake mush! Blustering and blundering around and near enough taking his side against Sian, that's how it appears to me! He his jollying you both up and your going along with it more or less as if it is some joke and not a serious matter when it is and should be at core of ones 'Nationalist Beliefs'. Just be Patriots and state you were wrong as Adam was when he said ''The Welsh Should Adopt The Three Feathers''. If this Nathan is a mate of yours? that is what he is trying to make out. A warning with 'Freinds Like This Who Needs Enemies', get my drift? now I am sure Sian did not call you a 'BRIT' personally but that is what Nathan is fucking your head about with, so get real and deal with it not as you and Adam have not done yet defend your Hero and BC/MRhC founder FWA COMMANDANT DENIS COSLET from the Diatribes of Humphries in his book. No, that was left to me, why not you two 'Leaders' of BC? Russell, don't bother saying your not going to tolerate me much more as I am only tolerating you and a few others as far as Rali Cilmeri 2012 at which I want to give my last Patriotic Speech on the subject of WELSH NATIONALIST TREACHERY!

Russell Gwilym Morris Just like to point out to one and all , just because I signed a petition it don't make me a brit nat . I'm a welsh nat always have been always will be . I don't even know why I'm writing this to be honest because I don't need to justify my actions to no fucker . Now u all have ya self a nice day now n play nice :-)
Nathen David Robert Amin Thatta boy Russell, calling you or Pauline a British Nat would be the most absurd allegation I'd ever hear and would certainly be slander! Cymru Rydd Brawd!
Russell Gwilym Morris Epesially when im gona be on this fucking mountain lol with gethin sian adam an everyone else lol
Nathen David Robert Amin Wished I could be there. Will probably be able to see the turbines from my house. Shameful.
Russell Gwilym Morris See if ya can make others
Nathen David Robert Amin Post on my wall Russ when you get info. Last time I went up Betws mountain almost died in the snow remember ha!
Russell Gwilym Morris Ok will do n when I get home ill see about adding u to gethin n sians winfar groups


It is obvious to me that Nathan is working a policy of 'Divide and Conquor' given the fact of all Sian has done over half a century for Cymru and still is doing more than most, don't you think you and others should have been more fourth right in defence of her 'honour' as one of the best women fighters since Francis Evans? But no you allow this Brit loving 'Nutter' to sucker you both to get into his 'Brit Bed'. Be careful! You know what they say about those who lay with dogs catch their fleas and I am sure neither of you want to be scratching off some Sais Shite spread by someone who is out to confuse Patriots with a load of CAMBRO CRAP! I bet he even loves Shakespeare another Tudor Propagandists that contributed greatly to confusing Cymric Consciousness and making of it later CAMBRO BRIT CRAP which can still be seen in the awfulness of the 'Taffia' and 'Crachach' too. Which will be no doubt seen to the full over the weeks ahead during the Jubliee Jamboree, I suspect that Nathan as Huw 'BBC' Edwards would be right up for Lloyd George too and maybe Carlo and Sons as well? Think all you 'Young Turks' need to read the book:

Amazon.com: Investiture: Royal Ceremony and National Identity in Wales 1911-
1969 (9780708320006): John S. Ellis: Books.
www.amazon.com/Investiture-Ceremony-National-Identity-1911-1969/dp/0708320007 - 215k -Similar pages

Which informs on the Confused State of Mind of 'Cambro Brit Cultural Brit Patriotism'. Best I can do to help your fuller Nationalist Education other than entering into the wonderful world of Welsh Remembrancer Blogs.


See below of fb and of course boycott Nathan's petition:

Nathen David Robert Amin
Up to 84 signatories on my Henry Tudor statue campaign in Pembroke. Help me get to 100! Sign please, it takes 60 seconds and is free! No Donation needed! Diolch yn fawr.https://www.assemblywales.org/epetition-list-of-signatories.htm?pet_id=739
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Nathen David Robert Amin That's why I like you patriot!
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Bryn Webster arent the tudors a bunch of london sell outs?
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Sian Ifan Yes, the first thing Henry Tudor did when he got into power was to give large areas of Cymru away to his favourite English barons. The second thing he did was to enforce an Act of Union on Cymru, no Cymro or Cymraes signed any agreement to have it! So, campaigning for a statue for him to be placed anywhere in Cymru is really rubbing the salt in the wound!
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Luke Welshy Grattan aint got mine yet
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Luke Welshy Grattan done done done AND done
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Hugh Jordan Bit like us, then?
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Adam Balchder No from me sorry- he annexed us to our neighbour and we are trying to reverse that situation now
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Nigel Davies Tudor = Bradwr
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Nathen David Robert Amin Wrong Sian, so very wrong you don't even deserve a reply. I have rarely seen such an ignorant post on this group.
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Nathen David Robert Amin Sometimes it shames me coming across the ignorance to our history on this group. If your for it or not is irrelevant, we all have varying opinions and that's fine but to not know your history I find bewildering. Sometimes I wonder, as I have posted numerous times, if people on here actually know that there was noone more loyal to the English crown under Richard II than the English-wife marrying Owain Glyndwr? Or is that hushed up?
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Sian Ifan Go on, let's have your version of this history...can't wait.
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Luke Welshy Grattan i don't mind about glyndwr's wife or that he fought under the english crown. he's still a hero for the people as ever
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Nathen David Robert Amin Why should I waste my time, your clearly not going to appreciate it, its hard to discuss matters with a closed mind
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Sian Ifan Don't throw that old chestnut up...We have never ever tried to "hush up" as you call it the Hanmer's loyalty to Glyndwr but Henry Tudur is a different history and if you bother to read and learn your history like we've done since the cradle, you will find that what is said about him is absolutely true and if you can't read, just look at the last tv series about the Tudors for a taste of what a greedy loathsome bunch they were.
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Nathen David Robert Amin Me too Luke, a personal hero. Never got round to getting that tattoo, Bellamy's one is incredible on his arm. If looking at that doesn't inspire you then I don't know what will. The point is that Glyndwr is given this "free pass" when he so valiantly fought for thje "enemy" when others aren't. William Herbert for example, a man of unflinching loyalty to the English Yorkist cause and a man who rose higher than any Welshman previously in English royal circles was considered for many a time a Welsh hero and a Mab Darogan. Not for me personally but I can appreciate his role in Welsh marcher history.


Where is the Tudors tv series coming into it!! Your backing your argument up with an American TV costume drama!! The mind boggles. You initial parageaph is riddled with so many errors its unbelievble. Let me help you out first of all...Henry VII and Henry VIII are two different kings. That may help you out first of all. Second of all, I strongly suggest you read and study in depth Welsh history from the Welsh rebellion under Glyndwr, Mortimers and Tudors 1400-1412, the Welsh penal laws of 1402 onwards and the Welsh role in Wars of the Roses. Additionally study Welsh bardic prophecy poetry by Welsh nationalists of the era like Lewys Glyn Cothi or Guto'r Glyn. But I'm sure someone on their keyboard in 2012 knows and understands more.
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Earl T. Williams Jr Tudors not all bad! Two Tudor Cousins of Owain Glyndwr fought with him. Jasper Tudor founder of the Tudors was first to carry the Red Dragon into battle. They are my relations as many of the Welsh Princes, Rhys, Howell Dda etc. I am a strong Welsh Nationalist and will always be. I write for Ninnau the North American Welsh News.
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Sian Ifan I referred to the Tudor series for your benefit - not mine as it seems you have been reading the books upside down. I have read these and hundreds more books about our history the right way up so, let me help you. Glyndŵr did not lead a rebellion, he led a War of Independence and kept it going longer than the 1st or 2nd world wars in a country that had a population of 500,000 compared to England's population of 3 million and as for me studying Cymric bardic prophecy poetry, I wouldn't even go there but, I will tell you that despite their hopes,these bards were quick to voice their dissapointment when they realised that Henry Tudor was not the new Mab Darogan they had hoped for. He was the King of England and soon enough the TUDOR name was dropped and this dynasty was known as the House of Richmond. Just go away and read how much Cymric land was given away like trinkets by this bunch. Build him a memorial in Cymru? Over my dead body!
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Nathen David Robert Amin I can't be bothered to reply to you, your clearly a deluded individual. I bow down to your superior knowledge. Whether people wish to sign a petition or not for this man is fine, I respect Adam's stance for example as he declines respectfully, but for your butchering of Welsh history in your misguided "defence" of Welsh nationalist history, I'll leave you be. You do realise Owain Glyndwr's uprising did leave Wales in a worse state than ever? Agriculturally, economically, legally and architecturally. Still a personal hero of mine in spite of the disastrous failing of his uprising for the role he, his tudor cousins and the english Hanmer's, Mortimers and Percies played in uniting the Principality of Wales against foreign rule. I gather your one of these 'kill all english" type nationalists.
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Nathen David Robert Amin Henry Tudor was responsible for crushing the noblility power in both england and wales via his method of not only holding large financial fines over the heads of noble families like Staffords, Percies, Nevilles etc but also banning them from having retainers, therefore they could not cause another situation like the Wars of the Roses whereby powerful nobles were toppling princes. Thus I don't see how he gave up vast stretches of Wales to his english friends. 


After the Glyndwr uprising the Welsh people were severly punished by the Penal Laws of 1402 and life was never more oppressed than in this post-war period. As a result many welshmen emigrated to London to make a living including Owen Tudor, a man whose entire inheritence had been forfeited and attainted due to his father Maredudd and uncle Rhys and Gwilym's key role in Their cousin Glyndwr's war.
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Nathen David Robert Amin Going back to your first paragraph...the Acts of Wales were signed in 1536. Henry Tudor died in 1509. How did he sign this? With your wonderful knowledge of history please clarify how his second act was to sign this Act?
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Nathen David Robert Amin Finally, whilst it is a lamentation of mine that we could have certianly prospered more under Henry Tudor as a King of England primarily (although he is the only English monarch to have called himself Prince of Wales) he certainly did not "forget" wales. The amount of Welshmen who prospered or were rewarded in the aftermath of the Battle of Bosworth was unprecedented. The bretons and welsh won him the crown and he didn't forget this...sir Rhys ap Thomas for example becoming justicar of South Wales, Welshmen made Bishops of St Asaph and St Davids, many more made burgesses, sheriffes and judges in their communities. All roles that had been English dominated up until this point and a core reason that Glyndwr's rebellion was supported by suffering Welshmen. The fact that the vast majority of Wales at the time supported or were at least open to Tudor and flocked to his banner after he landed at Dale speaks volumes. But forget about the people and the bards of the day who lived it, you, Sian Ifan of Keyboard Nationalist Party, clearly know better than your ancestors.
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Bryn Webster henry tudor granted the area of stryveland back to english nobility (from the gower) from the welsh.....the evidence is in the national library of Wales...where have you got this random history from nathen


You are obsessing over the 1400s and not talking about the case in point...the 1500s onwards

Henry the eighth hated the welsh culture and language

So far nathen has offered no evidence about this claim for the post glyndwr period....we are not talking about glyndwrs period
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Bryn Webster nathen we are talking about the stryveland case
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Nathen David Robert Amin Because I'm not talking about Henry VIII you history whizz...the petition is for Henry Tudor. The seventh. Fuck Henry VIII. He's irrelevant to this discussion as is Acts of Wales 1536. His laws crushed the Welsh language and Welsh pride even though it was welcomed by the Welsh gentry of the day. Fuck the Acts of Wales law. I'm as much a nationalist as yourselves. Stop brining irrelavance into this discussion. I live on Betws Mountain by the way in the Amman Valley, don't preach local history to me thank you.
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Dafydd Ap Ffranc Clwyd I'm sorry, but I cannot support this campaign. Harri I/VII was not as bad as his son, but he was still a bradwr. Doesn't mean all his family were, nor were his ancestors. But he and his dynasty in England were all bradwyr
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Leigh Canham ‎Nathen David Robert Amin: Yep, Harri VIII did his dirty in 1536, but the Sooty and Sweep thing that went on between him and Thomas Cromwell, that xenophobic pig. Oh, not making excuses for Harri VIII, but he was manipulated very badly by a Welsh hater and an anti-papist. Cromwell tried to mess it up for us, (but we are still here)... he certainly did for the Catholics. Harri's choices, all of them - but he was treacherously manipulated and pissed on by a megalomaniac intellectual racist bigot. Harri VIII was an intellectual in his own right, but he was also very weak and consumed with jealousy all his life... My batt about to go and I'm in bed... posting!!! Nos da pawb!
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Nathen David Robert Amin I give up. Everyone seems fixated on Henry VIII in this thread when he is completely irrelevant. Fuuuuuck Henry VIII and his acts of Wales laws...that is another topic, another discussion, another time. 


Dafydd, I appreciate your view point, you have, like Adam before you, merely stated you can not support it as is your prerogative. No quabbles from me. I wouldn't call HIM a bradwyr for he advanced the causes of Welshmen as far as he could without putting is own dynasty at risk and what with Welsh coat of arms, flags, st david's day celebrations, naming his child Arthur remained as passionate a Welshman as any exile on this group remained...his dynasty, you have a fair point but I don't care bout them and I'm not doing a Henry VIII Elizabeth Cromwell statue. I'm doing a Henry VII one.
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Dafydd Ap Ffranc Clwyd Of all the Tudur monarchs, I have the least grievance with Harri I/VII, but in my eyes he was still a sell out. He had the power to create real change for Wales and decided against it. It his opportunism that I don't like, but I don't fault him personally for it. We can not deny his predecessors were loyal to Wales though, but to be fair on Harri, unlike his predecessors in his family, he was not a full blooded Welshman nor did he have a Welsh upbringing. Therefore, to me if he had any allegiance to Wales it was out of choice not duty and for that I have respect for him. But he is no hero in my eyes. If others wish to honour him as a hero, I have no quarrel with that though. 


I see everyone as individuals though and can not judge him based on the real evils placed upon us by his son Harri Fychan II/VIII, destroying what remained of the legal entity that was Wales, creating what became the British empire and forcing Protestantism upon the nation. Although, I do believe even Harri Fychan once held sympathies for Wales before being corrupted by Thomas Cromwell. Too the point that the two worse 'English' dynasties to rule over Wales were the two Welsh ones; the Tudur's and the Cromwell's. At least Harri Fychan's sister Marged Tudur and her line of the dynasty were uncorrupted. The absolute power the Tudur's had in England clearly corrupted them over time, where as the Tudur line in Sgotland was constantly fighting for their lives and never became corrupted in my eyes. Remaining true to the Church that their Lord himself built. It's a shame that the many great Tudurs there are today and since the English dynasties reign has had their House continuously dishonoured by the actions of a few of their ancestors.
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Nathen David Robert Amin That's a very good post and well balanced Dafydd, as I said, no quibbles from me, each man's opinion has my full support as long as its an academically sound basis and is not just reactionary rubbish. One minor issue...he was brought up until 14 in Wales at Pembroke and Raglan until his 14yr exile to Brittany and his welsh pride was undoubted...its just that I guess the task of being King of English realistically put paid to advancing wales. Who knows. You have to have a degree of self interest to control a kingdom after 50yrs of War.
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Sian Ifan I referred to the Tudor series for your benefit - not mine as it seems you have been reading the books upside down. I have read these and hundreds more books about our history the right way up so, let me help you. Glyndŵr did not lead a rebellion, he led a War of Independence and kept it going longer than the 1st or 2nd world wars in a country that had a population of 500,000 compared to England's population of 3 million and as for me studying Cymric bardic prophecy poetry, I wouldn't even go there but, I will tell you that despite their hopes,these bards were quick to voice their dissapointment when they realised that Henry Tudor was not the new Mab Darogan they had hoped for. He was the King of England and soon enough the TUDOR name was dropped and this dynasty was known as the House of Richmond. Just go away and read how much Cymric land was given away like trinkets by this bunch. Build him a memorial in Cymru? Over my dead body!
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Nathen David Robert Amin What books have I "read upside down then". I don't think I've ever come across someone as arrogant as you before on any facebook site. Pathetic attitude. "I've read hundred mores books, I'm betterr than you, I'm cleverer than you". That's how your coming across, get out of your own ass. Your campaign on government website states "War of Independen 1400-1421" - we went on until 1421 did we? When all fighting ceased by 1412, welshmen were back fighting for the english king at Agincourt in 1415. Is it possible for you to post anything that isn't riddled with mistakes?
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Sian Ifan Well Amin, for someone who stated he couldn't be bothered to reply to me last night you certainly seem to have been up all night whereas I had a good night's sleep because I do not give two hoots about your type. You're a Welsh Brit - just like the Welsh traitor greedy grovellers that couldn't wait to move to London to serve the House of Richmond dynasty and England It's you that has a closed mind and is selective in your chosen history for your chosen cause of a statue to a BRADWR. No true Cymric patriot would support that! And as for calling me a 'keyboard nationalist', that's classic! You do not know anything about me. You state that you live on Mynydd y Betws, well, let's see you up there on the 9th June, carrying out some action to protect Stryveland. That would be much more productive than attacking people who are actively doing something to protect this mountain and many others all over Cymru.
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Sian Ifan Go and read some more - try turning the books the right way up and a visit to the National Library would help - if you're prepared to open your eyes that is? Maredudd, Glyndwr's son is known to be still fighting in Eryri up to 1421. Want more proof...go and read and, if anyone's arrogant, it's you. Go back through this dialogue, your first message was 'hostile' to say the least.
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Nathen David Robert Amin Its called working a night shift cariad. Us mere intellectual peasants must work for a living, we can't read books the right way you see. 


Calling me a Welsh Brit. Funny that. I'm sure people such as Russell Morris can comment as to my political leanings, but I have nothing to proove to horribly rude people such as yourself. Those who have wanted to sign it have signed it, those who don't want to sign it haven't. No big deal. Each to their own. Yet your clearly an aggressive twat who needs to wind her neck in. Your much better than me. I bow down to you. You are the truest Welsh nationalist on this site. Da Iawn, kill the english and all that. As for the 9th of June I am ofcourse aware of that yet I'm in Cyprus for a Wedding. I suppose your such a patriot you'd cancel the wedding right? Oh and Lol at being called a Welsh Brit again. Classic. Where's my union jack gone I wonder? *shakes my head*
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Sian Ifan Now, go away, you may have all the time in the world to be on a keyboard all day sending out hostile and negative messages because I dared to condemn your 'rubbish petition' but I've got loads of constructive and practical work to do for the cause so, as far as I'm concerned, this dribble ends here.
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Nathen David Robert Amin And no, Maredudd was not "Known" to be fighting at all, he consistently refused pardons from the King of England and the Duke of Bedford and it is a "possibility" he was still active in attmepting to rescue the embers of a failed yet glorious bid for Independence. Don't twist history, we have no solid facts on his intentions either way. I'd like to believe he was trying everything he can but there is no conclusive historical document of contemporary and unbiased chroncilers to corroborate that theory. Next you'll be telling me Glyndwr is sitting in a cave up in Llyn Llech Owain ready to come out fighting any second.
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Russell Gwilym Morris Just like to point out to one and all , just because I signed a petition it don't make me a brit nat . I'm a welsh nat always have been always will be . I don't even know why I'm writing this to be honest because I don't need to justify my actions to no fucker . Now u all have ya self a nice day now n play nice :-)
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Nathen David Robert Amin Thatta boy Russell, calling you or Pauline a British Nat would be the most absurd allegation I'd ever hear and would certainly be slander! Cymru Rydd Brawd!
Yesterday at 09:23 via Mobile · Like
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Russell Gwilym Morris Epesially when im gona be on this fucking mountain lol with gethin sian adam an everyone else lol
Yesterday at 09:25 via Mobile · Like
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Nathen David Robert Amin Wished I could be there. Will probably be able to see the turbines from my house. Shameful.
Yesterday at 09:27 via Mobile · Like
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Russell Gwilym Morris See if ya can make others
Yesterday at 09:29 via Mobile · Like
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Nathen David Robert Amin Post on my wall Russ when you get info. Last time I went up Betws mountain almost died in the snow remember ha!
Yesterday at 09:32 via Mobile · Like
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Russell Gwilym Morris Ok will do n when I get home ill see about adding u to gethin n sians winfar groups
Yesterday at 09:36 via Mobile · Like

I Find It highly Interesting that when Patriots with some good knowledge challenge Nathan he 'Cringes' and takes flight but for some reason wants to really wants to have a go at Sian. I wonder why, the real reason?

Gethin Gruffydd.
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